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From serving food in the mess hall to fighting a battle on the front line to avoiding land mines along the path to a village, the duties a soldier carries out have very different levels of responsibility.

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enlistment

I got TKO'd from the navy and the army but I really want to join the military.  Is there really nothing I can do?? They said Ihve to get allllll my medical records which seems impossible. I wanna knw if I can get a reevaluation or something bc there is absolutely nothing wrong with me. Or should I just give up

Ungrateful

These comments make me sick. All you ungrateful bastards seem to "know" everything about our soldiers. Before you start running your cock holsters anymore, why don't you go find out what it takes to be in the military. I bet 90% of you wouldn't even qualify. You don't know how good we actually have it compared to most of the other countries. Why don't you go over there and find out. For those that think soldiers are all drunk adulterers,get a damn brain. It's not cause their soldiers, it's a problem with all 20-40 year olds. Damn, who makes up the majority of the military???  Of course there's problems, but it's worse for soldiers because 1 idiot does something wrong and it makes them all look bad. 

Military leadership

I feel sorry for all the good friends I have that are active duty. Good people left to rot under **** management. These pathetic micro managers can't make it in the real world. Instead they sit on their fat profiled asses and try to dictate others lives. I'm talking about the fat black smsgt that can't do a push-up but can eat his weight in food, or the fat msgt that has c cup breasts and is a male, or that fat cmsgt who snacks on cakes all day. Air Force leadership is nothing more than uneducated fat losers, bad decision makers and morale killers. so if your a so called leader an this offends you then too bad. You're not serving your country, you're ruining it and collecting a free check. I hope you all lose you retirement and all the benefits.  

i am 27 can i still get in

i am 27 can i still get in the airfoce

Yes but do it now

  • Be between the ages of 17-27. *
  • Have no more than two dependents.
  • Pass the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude test. (Minimum AFQT Score: 40)

nope

not with spelling like that!

Yes

I believe the age limit to enlist with parents permission 17-42

AF 27 y.o.

I think you have to be 27 at the time of signing the contract, and still 27 when you ship off for Basic Training (which may take a few months to a year after signing).It is tough to get into the AF right now as they are overmanned and are only taking young(er) Engineering and Technical people. However there may always be a way. Call your local recruiter in your area. The number can likely be found at the website link above. Good luck.

The devils military

The amount of cheating I've seen in the military blew my mind.  I was expecting the military to be held to a higher moral standard then the civilian world, but I found the opposite to be true.  The majority of military men cheat and often do it with oftentimes many women, quite  often with a smile on their face and no remorse whatsoever.  Oftentimes the wives are doing the same thing sleeping with whoever while husbands are deployed.  I've never seen so many people get away with so much because they're a Freemason and never experienced so much bullying for being a real genuine person. The military does have great benefits and anybody that says otherwise is lying.  But as you can see the government is constantly restricting our freedoms, such as the 2nd amendment but dumb troops somehow think killing an Iraqi makes us free.  The level of beaurocracy and paperwork you have to do to get one small thing done will turn your hair gray.  I'm sure the army 20 years ago used to be pretty awesome now it's a political nightmare with no morals.

I love these guys...

When you factor in VA benefits, compensation for injuries sustatained, health care for the rest of my life, education, GI Bill, basic pay, Housing allowance, food allowance, etc made over a $1,000,000 during my 4 year enlistment. I've been out for 3 months, I'll have my bachelors degree in molecular biology in two semesters. Oh, I have no student loan debt, my Audi is paid off, and I spent 3 years living in a beach house throughout the course of my enlistment.Still think your so smart; racking up student loans to pay for your sub-par education? If you take the time out of your day to come here and bash military members I doubt your even in school, your probably just pissed because a Marine took your girlfriend.

Million dollars?! Don't think so!

the only way you're getting healthcare the rest of your life is if you're retired. Im guessing the only way you're getting that benefit is because you were medically retired? Other wise there's no way that in your four year enlistment with benefits gave you a million bucks. I served 6 years, the first couple years I felt I was living paycheck to paycheck. The money increased once I got married, but its still not a lot. Military members deserve to be paid a lot more than what they are given! They sacrifice too much to be given so little! 

Obviously proper grammatical

Obviously proper grammatical composition was not part of your molecular biology degree.  "Your" is not the same as "you're."  Figure it out smart guy

geez

 Its not about pay.  Its what you do for that amount of pay that some civilian does less than you and gets paid not just more, but wayyy more.  And of course after that you would say oh just go work for them.  No ,being a soldier is a higher level of responsibility and it is fullfilling however it is not right that for what we do we get paid just enough to where we dont complain.  I say negative to that.  Give soldiers a more equal pay, especially to their civilian counterparts.  Retention wise this makes all the sense in the world.  More soldiers would stay in the military if they knew that they would only get a small jump in pay if they go to civilian life.  It is about service and defending our nation ,but if were content with getting crappy pay, then what else is on the table for them to take away or tweak?  Could they possibly take tuition assistance away for active duty soldiers?  Oh wait they already did!However patriotic soldiers are, the thing that entices them to enlist in the military and stay in is benefits, and financial prosperity.  The mixture of the two not one more than the other.  So to say its not about money is to not be realistic.  Money makes the world go round.  And a soldier no matter how much he loves his country will not do it for minimum wage.

I respect all the soldiers

My husband is in the military n I totally love n respect him.

What choice do you have

What choice do you have

Useless

Not sure what the purpose of this stupid site serves but they clearly have it wrong concerning the military. Probably some punk kid that got booted out of the military and now works IT somewhere and created this useless site. Military careers are exactly what you make them. It has never been about the pay or the lack of...it is about service and defending our once great nation. If you don't understand that then you're probably self-centered and believe the world owes you something; to that I say go **** up a rope.

Clueless

These people give it thier all for our country and once they get back, sadly the system fucks them over royally. No one will give them good jobs because they havent gotten civilian certification or something like that even IF they had the same exact training in the military! Its a load.

military

The military is nothing more than mercenaries for the govt. Sent to fight fake wars and ruin foreign countries. Military people are submissive and like to be controlled, lack the ability to make thier own descisions, and believe anything a high ranking person tells them. I hate to say it but todays military breeds three types of peope. Assholes, alcoholics, and laziness. Which are you?

mad

Hey who ever wrote this, My father is in the military(NAVY) and i dont like what your saying about it because it's directed towards him and everyone in the military. Maybe next time you have an opinon about the military you'll keep it to yourself. I'm going to be in the military and you just called me all those names then. What a nice person you are.From,A really mad boy

I am glad I risk my life and

I am glad I risk my life and life thousands away from my family so that you have the FREEDOM to write that.

military

 i am getting shipped off soon and i come from a long line of military family members. Born and raised in the country on a pig farm. people that complain all day about the government and war but are the first to accept the handouts.i aint ever excepted no hand out and neither has my family, and we are gonna be the first to fight for the government because we love our country.  get out of your fantasy world and wake up. if you dont kill your gonna be killed. people like you make me embarrassed and sick to my stomach.

Silly silly person.

Silly silly person.

Soldier

We go risk are lives to protect you. Show some respect we don't have to go fight wars we choose too. we are just people like you...we just want to protect are home. You say we fight fake wars yet i've seem good people being shot down for simple not believing in what evil thinks we should.

You are an idiot

My Gradfather and his dad were both in the Military. They werent as you put it mercenaries if that were the case they would have fought for the person that paid them the most. My grandfather met his wife in the service and fought in Veitnam a war nobody wanted. He watched poeple die rght next to him and you have the audacity to say he's a mercenary what the hell is wrong with you.

Oh yes, vietnam, the conflict

Oh yes, vietnam, the conflict that served no purpose, that we lost, and did nothing but screw over everyone involved.

Yes, communism has done so

Yes, communism has done so much for great countries like China, what used to be the Soviet Union, Korea, shall I go on...again if you were in those countries you wouldn't be giving your opinion so freely.

Yep

Boy if you guys think that the military is full of poverty-stricken morons and bad managers, wait until you join the civilian workforce!

exactly

This is exactly right.  After 6 years in the service I know that the level of accountability, respect, and quality in the service is far greater than civilian life.  The students and professors at my current university are a damn joke.  However I never believed I was fighting for our freedom.  Not as our own government was busy stripping it away, far beyond what any "terrorist" ever could.  We were tools for a government, controlling resources to maintain the over priveledge ways of america.    

Extremely Disrespectful

I find this ridiculously disrespectful. I'm in the United States Marine Corps and I fight on the frontlines. We're out here risking our lives every step we take and the civilians back home have no respect. Sometimes I'd rather be out here chilling with these towel-heads than be back at home and realize how ignorant some of my fellow Americans can be.

Angel

I respect you and I wish I was there by your side fighting with you

I agree and I'm not even in

I agree and I'm not even in the military!

I really get frustrated

My "friends" back home and a good chunk of americans just dont understand how lucky they are with what they got. Some of us just complain about the most pathetic and simple things, I have only been a soldier for almost a year now and realized how spoiled americans really are. Being over in Korea has made me realize this.

Ignorance is rampant

The US militry doesn't get paid alot - and people know that going in.  You apparenlty don't place much value on service as a reward but most who enlist do.  I did 21 years in the US Army, enlisted and commissined, and the fact that I didn't have alot of money in either position was not even close to number one on my list of concerns.  I was doing something that (1) the vast majority of Americans can't come close to doing; (2) something that provides a significant return to my nation and fellow Americans with whom I serve; and (3) is more meaningful than working for a pay check.  This and the willingness to step forward when everyone else stands fast is what makes Veterans special. No money is nothing but money isn't everything.  Except maybe to you.  And, frankly, I pity you for that.

WHAT A JOKE

I find it a disgrace how footballers are payed £10,000,000 + per year, it's a joke, first off these soldiers are risking their lives to fight for our country and they are getting payed minimum wage, SERIOUSLY WTF!Footballing, is a hobby and if taken forward as a job, they should just be payed minimum wage, they're just having fun on the field, kicking the ball around with friends, in places like Afgan, soldiers are out there and some see there friends get killed and the mental pain of dealing with experiences like this, are life chaning, WHATS WRONG WITH THE WORLD?Tbh i rate people like David Bechham and Bill Gates for example, they are both MEGA rich and they have given money they have earned away to help people who haven't got the best life, fair play but everyone forgets about the soldiers, no one cares about the wages they are on, it's time it should change.

Military life doesn't suck - the civilian world does

Military life doesn't suck. It's a blast and it gives people more opportunities for adventure than they could ever imagine. It instills strong character -- if you let it. I went back to college, and it opened my eyes to our our civilian contemporaries were having a BLAST in college while we were just trying to survive. While we deployed overseas, they partied, drank, and hooked up ALOT. Oh yeah, and alot of them still get good jobs - connections from family, friends, etc.So, I think that mentality makes us veterans think we missed out on all the good times when we come back home. I used to think about that everyday and it seems like my old buds did too. Basically, we start think we were fools for getting on the front lines while the rest of our generation partied and made money. But these thoughts are FALSE - we are the winners.This might sound crazy, but I think what freaks my friends out is that all the "good girls" got taken by the college losers with money/booze/drugs when they were gone and now they have to root through the leftovers. (I really do think this is more painful that the combat horrors - I mean look at the WW2 generation, they came back, got laid, and shacked up to pretty girls quick [b/c society was thankful about WW2] and they got over it.) Or they have to accept the "good girls"  they dumped/were dumped which can be painful to many. But they shouldn't worry about that . . . the military made you a stud from an objective standpoint that that'll pay off in the end and you'll be happy (though be patient - it'll take time)Nevertheless, after a couple years of civilian life, I finally accepted that our military service made us stronger people with stronger character. Our civilian counterpart's lives suck - they have no sense of fulfillment so no wonder they are all on anti-depressants. We just need to embrace how military life made us stronger! As for me, I'm going back into the service in six months. It'll be good to go back - I'm from a small town in rural Georgia and there's nothing left for me there in terms of jobs.

you should go back to being a

you should go back to being a pog, and living the good life. on deployment either sitting on an airforce base or marine camp, or maybe even sitting out at sea... you obviously dont know what the real military is about, the guys that do the real jobs i guess is a better way of putting it.  keep your mind to yourself

Not bad

Was in the US Army. It's always what you make of it. Being friends with the right people didn't hurt either ;)

Drink water.

The military is what you make of it. The joe's that are talking about how horrible their military life is, are the ones that never leave their barracks. They don't take advantage of their location, tuition assistance, or military schools. They are the bitter lazy morale killers. You know who you are. Then there are the others in the military. Embracing the suck, driving on, stepping up, and helping their battle buddies. 4 years or 20 years, they find a way to make the most of it. The pay sucks, the work is hard, there are many sacrifices, but there is no better job than one of selfless service. Drink water, stretch. 

Get a real job, go to a real school.

Soldiers don't protect,  they go to foreign lands to push around locals for their resources,  never really make a difference in the US.  They didnt stop 9/11, they didn't stop anything for that matter.  The military is for morons who mindlessly do what they are told.  The job sucks and it has no rewards.  How many Nam vets are doing vetter due to them serving in a war?  If your dumb enough to join the military then you earned the right to rot in foreign soil.  You do nothing that matters.  If you had any intelligence you would realize that the government is using you as meat.  No congressman is going to fight with you,  they just pat you on the head and send you off to do their bidding.  Just go to colllege and play sports if your that much if a jock. You will get more from it and might even get a real career.  The US military preys on ignorance and poverty stricken fools.  Thanks for "protecting"  my freedom. Stop kidding yourself.  You are a pawn,  a device,  your being used for someone elses capital gain.  Your not a warrior,  your not a bad ass.  Your a puppet with your strings being pulled and getting paid **** for it. 

poor use of your

I'm enlisting in the army tomorrow morning. I have 4 years of college credits, haven't graduated, but I will after I do my service. To whoever wrote this: you look like an idiot to others. I have a new word for your (proper usage) vocabulary: you're. I believe the exact opposite of what this person says. You are a bad ass. You are a warrior. Everyone knows you have to do what you are told in the military, that's the nature of the beast. The pay isn't bad either, especially if you have some education under your belt. On top of that, military service looks terrific on a resume, and you could go on to work for the FBI, or even the state department. You won't go anywhere if you don't apply yourself. Part of the reason I am enlisting is to develop some stronger will power, determination, and gain some respect. I have thought long and hard about this choice. This person obviously just likes to bitch about whatever comes to mind. Life is what you make it. I will embrace the suck and hurry up and wait

your on acid

ok...where do i begin lolololol..you clearly tried the military life and got no where or maybe popped hot on a urin test your dumb *** forgot to study for..The military paid my way to a masters degree and i make amazing money and love my career so dont jump the gun coward . oh and what do you think the insurgents would do if we just let them slide after 9/11?? or we didnt have soldiers or marines pushing locals around??they would attack again because are guard is down . if you dont like your own country then move to korea im sure they will love you there . oh yeah, there is no capitol gain in this war lol we are losing money and vietnam vets did not have the same benefits we did . they got feces thrown at them . the government didnt force me to come to afghanistan, im here because i volunteer .oh, and nam vets actually colllect disability benefits like 3000.00 a month and still get to work while they collect that so id say they are doing fairly well . military is bad ass of the bad *****. we arent scared like you . we fight for that freedom you enjoy punk . on your couch like some dam potatoe head smoking weed telling all your buddies how you used to beloololol your one of those used to bes that hang out at the hole in the wall bars .You wouldnt have the balls to walk down the hallways at Walter reid and screa that rot in the soil shit..we would tear you to peaces ..what resources???lol  what a failure your mother was as a parent ewwwwwwwwwwwwww that hurt

True

Being active duty I can say this ^ is right. To the military and govt you are nothing more than a number, thats it. We go off and make nothing, most military income is below the povery level, while the fat politicians sit around and get richer. Most of you that say how great the military is are nothing more than followers. If you had the ability to think for yourself you could see whats really going on. In a few months when I get out those ribbons, awards, and other pointless remnants wont get me anything. Most military folks, sad to say, are people that like having thier lives dictated to them. Its really sad that people have this sheep mentality. So before you bash someone for stating thier opinions, stop and think about what your doing that is so great? But then again most of military relies on media outlets like Faux News for thier information. No wonder you're all controlled...

If we didnt join there would

If we didnt join there would be a draft, so be thankful we do. your just to much of a ***** to join.

A masters degree in

A masters degree in engineering and you still spell better with a "v?" It makes it worth more knowing that the comment you made is at a time in our lives where kitchen appliances have "auto-correct." Normally I would take such a thing as trivial, knowing how much of a pain in the ass it is to type on some Internet enabled devices... However since you took the time to make one of my fellow soldiers feel like shit for trivial things, I thought you might like to be equally embarrassed. Anyways, to the point shall we? When I went to college (no where special, I don't care to compare) I noticed there was something missing. I saw how some things were very close to what excited me, but not any real full excitement. Then, after reflecting on the things that excite me and past events in my life, I realized that college did not have what I needed. Now it is true that you can volunteer for green  peace and all that... But I would rather have a gun in my hand if I'm going to live in a place   to help people who are endangered of being murdered everyday. Aside from the fact that as a volunteer you are pretty much at the whim of any person with a gun... I did not see any organizations large enough to facilitate the kind of things I wanted to do. I check the majors again, and "badass" was not available, still. So I joined the army.Ill say this to you. I joined for the job that is not legally applicable to the outside world because I thought I would be good at it, or I would like it. Now, I realize I love it. I love breaking into to some house and kidnapping some shit bag who makes ied's which blow up kids, I found that so rewarding... More rewarding than let say Tuesday afternoons sociology refresh on how the Durkheim statistic could effect the milieu of a household... You'll give a **** about all that when people shoot at you. Never the less... Thanks to the military, I am a home owner I have been in a movie, that you probably saw, I have been in tv shows, met famous musicians, authors, politicians, I married an Italian model, saw something like 50plus countries. I speak Pashto, Italian, and Spanish.  But I guess even after all that ass kicking I still don't have a degree... I have been thinking about going to school and using that time to write a book. Because those are two things I have not done yet.  

This guy is the moron

Wow !!!!!  someone has a little anger at the military??  This is the discrimination they go through.  What would our country be like without a military???   We would be invaded by any number of countries.  If one doubts this than they are nieve to the world.

lack of brain

You are a complete moron. Re-read your post and take notice of your grammatical errors. Great education bud. Obviously greater than my Northwestern Masters in engineering. You're the POS that couldnt hack it in the military, most likely received an Art15, and was forced out. You clearly have the slightest clue. I will enjoy my near 6 figure salary which you help contribute to. Haha..enjoy your "real education" playing your sports and scoring a "real career" in this economic meltdown. The military will be just fine. Cheers.

Yeah?

Yeah motherfucker? Because im pretty sure that i have a shitload of friends outside of the army at my base. And i hang out with them over the weekend and go snowboarding. But then again i have to get up at 0400 every morning and get off at like 18,1900 to just barely go to the gym and then pass out. So fuck your ignornt ass

i had many friends & family in Miltary service

I cannot say the kind of "suck it up & don't ruin morale" that was posted here/comments, but I agree that my Grandfather (WW2 vet/hero) Uncle (WW2 vet) & many friends in the Guard (served stateside but still deal w/ serious situations), none of them would be caught complaining about pay.  SO: I AGREE that folks in combat should definitely be paid more for dangerous/hazardous scenario.  I also agree that this is true of Fire&Rescue & cops who serve beyond just 3 or 4 years or so.  I have a pal who flies heavy lifters (C-130's) who never complained about Air Force pay or life, and i grew up w/ Air Force Brats who's families were well adjusted, happy & very cool middle class folks to be honest--btw, for anyone not familiar, air force Brat is a GOOD nickname: it refers to any kid who's parents are Air Force.   My pals lived on the local AF Base & their parents were great folks in my opinion, never seemed negative about anything, lived in modest, nice middle class house on the Base & later moved into the city & lived in a good neighborhood in small but great house. There should basically be MORE funding in our country for those who are at risk & choose to serve in hazardous & key positions dealing w/ health & safety.  AND those who have severe disability + seniors on Social Security who don't have much in the bank: ALL deserve more & better care/monetary assistance.For anyone who thinks military or disabled or elderly don't sacrifice & suffer----or for anyone who thinks any of those are just "getting a break from *Big Government*" well your being childish & selfish, go meet your fellow Americans in these situations.

Hey seriously go to school

Hey seriously go to school then get in the service. I'm a Cpt. And a doctor in the Air Force, and have been in for about 11 years now.I got a sweet job plus sweet benefits. The only problem is, I make about 200k less than I would as a civi doc. Still if you want a "cushy" job, go to school then the service. By the way I'm not one of these crap docs that went through the military's med school! I went to Michigain State.

Hey Dr. Moron.

Hey moron - the Military's Medical School (USUHS) is just as good as Michigan State. I wouldn't call them "crap doctors" b/c I'm sure everyone suspects that of YOU as well having gone to a civilian school and then passing up a civilian job where you can rake in the $ (and the women). SOURCE: The rest of us who have to go to military doctors.

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